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Post by Eagle on Aug 15, 2012 13:46:36 GMT 1
Serverlog
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The force is with u: duel... do not interrupt
The force is with u killed LuzifeR~ by MOD_SABER
{NTL}Buzeranti killed The force is with u by MOD_SABER
The force is with u: wont tell ya again :)
{NTL}Buzeranti: u wasnt in duel
The force is with u: i actually finished mine :)
{NTL}Buzeranti: laming is not crime
The force is with u: read the rules man :)
The force is with u: http://vampirejk2.proboards.com
{NTL}Buzeranti: shitty forum
The force is with u: yea then dont read them but do not complain about getting kicked or w/e
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=> Continued to interrupt for a couple of times, got kicked for interrupting, continued to interrupt => ban
=> Inappropriate unban request (name/content) => ban extended
=> bypassing ban (doesn't matter how) => perm ban
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Dacul
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Post by Dacul on Aug 15, 2012 16:49:56 GMT 1
just wanted to add, that we got a complain section and not a court with laws and lawyers etc. its just a fucking complain section. what are you guys actually expecting? we are not going to investigate everything in CSI style and even act as psychologists. Dacul: i understand that you think about why someone broke the rules. lets be realistic, people dont always do bad stuff purposely, but this server is private. its like a house. if someone who is drunk is acting like an idiot, we will throw him out. that would be like kicking someone from the server, the only problem is, that in jk2, people can join back after you threw them out. image this. your house, you have to throw someone out, multiple times. this person comes back and continues his behavior. you tell the person: " you cant do that, you have to stay out for a while." thats a ban. now this person still wants to come into your house, but instead of asking or explaining why you should let him in, he laughs at you and acts inappropriate. so you tell this person that you dont want him in for a longer period of time. this person then breaks into your house (bypassing the ban), not respecting you at all. would you really want this person come to your house ever again? does it really matter that much if this person was drunk or does have a uncommon sense of humor? personally, i would kick the living shit out of him for this bullshit. i doubt that he was drunk for the whole time. i mean, if he was drunk while getting banned for the first time and while complaining in forums. ok, but why didnt he just say so and accepted a ban for 3 weeks instead of bypassing the ban? was he drunk aswell while bypassing the ban? i seriously want to know what you guys are expecting? Very good post Nevarin and now to respond to your question from my perspective... I am expecting not a permanent ban...this is exagerated...7 weeks for something written in the forum and not happening on the server is also exagerated. |
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Post by Eagle on Aug 15, 2012 17:25:42 GMT 1
just wanted to add, that we got a complain section and not a court with laws and lawyers etc. its just a fucking complain section. what are you guys actually expecting? we are not going to investigate everything in CSI style and even act as psychologists. Dacul: i understand that you think about why someone broke the rules. lets be realistic, people dont always do bad stuff purposely, but this server is private. its like a house. if someone who is drunk is acting like an idiot, we will throw him out. that would be like kicking someone from the server, the only problem is, that in jk2, people can join back after you threw them out. image this. your house, you have to throw someone out, multiple times. this person comes back and continues his behavior. you tell the person: " you cant do that, you have to stay out for a while." thats a ban. now this person still wants to come into your house, but instead of asking or explaining why you should let him in, he laughs at you and acts inappropriate. so you tell this person that you dont want him in for a longer period of time. this person then breaks into your house (bypassing the ban), not respecting you at all. would you really want this person come to your house ever again? does it really matter that much if this person was drunk or does have a uncommon sense of humor? personally, i would kick the living shit out of him for this bullshit. i doubt that he was drunk for the whole time. i mean, if he was drunk while getting banned for the first time and while complaining in forums. ok, but why didnt he just say so and accepted a ban for 3 weeks instead of bypassing the ban? was he drunk aswell while bypassing the ban? i seriously want to know what you guys are expecting? Very good post Nevarin and now to respond to your question from my perspective... I am expecting not a permanent ban...this is exagerated...7 weeks for something written in the forum and not happening on the server is also exagerated. I only agree with you in @ 1 point. The additional 4 weeks for the post on our forums were a bit exaggerating (2 would have been enough) but doesn't matter anymore since he banned himself perma anyways. |
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Post by sega on Aug 15, 2012 17:41:43 GMT 1
yo guys. first, just wanted to add, that we got a complain section and not a court with laws and lawyers etc. its just a fucking complain section. what are you guys actually expecting? we are not going to investigate everything in CSI style and even act as psychologists. Dacul: i understand that you think about why someone broke the rules. lets be realistic, people dont always do bad stuff purposely, but this server is private. its like a house. if someone who is drunk is acting like an idiot, we will throw him out. that would be like kicking someone from the server, the only problem is, that in jk2, people can join back after you threw them out. image this. your house, you have to throw someone out, multiple times. this person comes back and continues his behavior. you tell the person: " you cant do that, you have to stay out for a while." thats a ban. now this person still wants to come into your house, but instead of asking or explaining why you should let him in, he laughs at you and acts inappropriate. so you tell this person that you dont want him in for a longer period of time. this person then breaks into your house (bypassing the ban), not respecting you at all. would you really want this person come to your house ever again? does it really matter that much if this person was drunk or does have a uncommon sense of humor? personally, i would kick the living shit out of him for this bullshit. i doubt that he was drunk for the whole time. i mean, if he was drunk while getting banned for the first time and while complaining in forums. ok, but why didnt he just say so and accepted a ban for 3 weeks instead of bypassing the ban? was he drunk aswell while bypassing the ban? i seriously want to know what you guys are expecting? +1 I suggest to close the topic... If you truly represent democracy then allow that vote for every vampire member not just a few sellect ones which ofcourse see things like "Ah he broke the rules, he made a disrespectfull complain and he bypassed the ban, permban deserved". all fully vampire members can vote, we don’t let ghouls participate in polls cus they are not fully part of the clan yet. but all our members can vote. (vampire members) and btw, eagle doesn’t need to do this, or even more. he can retract, he can see the results and if he don like them he can just do whatever he wants. (in theory) ofc he wont do this, cuz he’s trying to do this in a democratic way. this is worthy of respect and eagle know he has all my respect, i know him for some time and yea, he’s a respectable person. I suggest to close the topic... Stop for a second and think why he broke the rules...maybe he was drunk thus not being fully aware of his actions...after that he made the complain in a bad way because he probably thought the decision was wild(I don't think he ever got banned) and when he saw the 7 weeks thing he got even more mad...try to understand his feelings... dacul, yea i know. But we can’t administrate our server like that. It is simply impossible. if you are drunk and u mistreat your wife or kids. The law won’t say like; oh but wait a min, he was drunk. Sorry man didn’t know u were drunk, u are free to go. Things are not like that, unfortunately we have to see the facts only in this situations. And finally. I have read something that I rly cant belive. But whatever. ntl'dacul: EAgle is a communist :(
ntl'dacul: I made one, Eagle is like from the soviet empire
ntl'dacul: I am still thinking
ntl'dacul: weather
ntl'dacul: I should take down the vampire forum or not The communist thing it’s a shame, but what rly pissed me was the part of taking down our forums. Taking down our forums? What the fuck? I’m pretty sure you know how much we have worked to keep this forum and to make it. I request an explanation or something because I rly can’t understand this comment. |
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Post by dollar on Aug 15, 2012 19:12:02 GMT 1
Nevarin your metaphore is nice but wrong, Id compare the server to a pub, because its actually a public place.. You guys might not be so lucky like me and you might have not visited such a groovy place so many times like me. So Ill tell you how it works in a pub. When you do a mess or something they ll probably kick you out, if you come back they ll kick you again and again so you ll go home to get sober. If you come next day and get drunk and do the mess again, they ll probably kick you again.. But important thing is, that you wont be banned from that place.. Ofc there s this limit when they just tell you sorry dude you are not welcome here. But it can last just a week or so, then you are considered like a new guy again.. In case you wont come in through the front door but you will use the backdoor or a window so they couldnt see you they ll probably laugh their asses off when they find you there. Personally I dont know anyone who would get perm. banned from a fucking pub and its hard even to imagine the shit you would have to do so they would perm. ban you... Thats how it works in a groovy pub.. Btw: that is true story. You might have visited some shitty places if this metaphore sounds wrong to you. I agree with the last Daculs post.. It was indeed exaggerated  .. Please dont stone me to death for saying that now, thats how I feel about this. ~Dio |
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Dacul
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Post by Dacul on Aug 15, 2012 19:35:59 GMT 1
yo guys. first, just wanted to add, that we got a complain section and not a court with laws and lawyers etc. its just a fucking complain section. what are you guys actually expecting? we are not going to investigate everything in CSI style and even act as psychologists. Dacul: i understand that you think about why someone broke the rules. lets be realistic, people dont always do bad stuff purposely, but this server is private. its like a house. if someone who is drunk is acting like an idiot, we will throw him out. that would be like kicking someone from the server, the only problem is, that in jk2, people can join back after you threw them out. image this. your house, you have to throw someone out, multiple times. this person comes back and continues his behavior. you tell the person: " you cant do that, you have to stay out for a while." thats a ban. now this person still wants to come into your house, but instead of asking or explaining why you should let him in, he laughs at you and acts inappropriate. so you tell this person that you dont want him in for a longer period of time. this person then breaks into your house (bypassing the ban), not respecting you at all. would you really want this person come to your house ever again? does it really matter that much if this person was drunk or does have a uncommon sense of humor? personally, i would kick the living shit out of him for this bullshit. i doubt that he was drunk for the whole time. i mean, if he was drunk while getting banned for the first time and while complaining in forums. ok, but why didnt he just say so and accepted a ban for 3 weeks instead of bypassing the ban? was he drunk aswell while bypassing the ban? i seriously want to know what you guys are expecting? +1 all fully vampire members can vote, we don�t let ghouls participate in polls cus they are not fully part of the clan yet. but all our members can vote. (vampire members) and btw, eagle doesn�t need to do this, or even more. he can retract, he can see the results and if he don like them he can just do whatever he wants. (in theory) ofc he wont do this, cuz he�s trying to do this in a democratic way. this is worthy of respect and eagle know he has all my respect, i know him for some time and yea, he�s a respectable person. I suggest to close the topic... Stop for a second and think why he broke the rules...maybe he was drunk thus not being fully aware of his actions...after that he made the complain in a bad way because he probably thought the decision was wild(I don't think he ever got banned) and when he saw the 7 weeks thing he got even more mad...try to understand his feelings... dacul, yea i know. But we can�t administrate our server like that. It is simply impossible. if you are drunk and u mistreat your wife or kids. The law won�t say like; oh but wait a min, he was drunk. Sorry man didn�t know u were drunk, u are free to go. Things are not like that, unfortunately we have to see the facts only in this situations. And finally. I have read something that I rly cant belive. But whatever. ntl'dacul: EAgle is a communist :(
ntl'dacul: I made one, Eagle is like from the soviet empire
ntl'dacul: I am still thinking
ntl'dacul: weather
ntl'dacul: I should take down the vampire forum or not The communist thing it�s a shame, but that rly pissed me was the part of taking down our forums. Taking down our forums? What the fuck? I�m pretty sure you know how much we have worked to keep this forum and to make it. I request an explanation or something because I rly can�t understand this comment. You all treat us like we have done nothing for this server. We have done alot of good things: We keep the place alive when nowhone is on, there for people see that vampire castle has players so they join in.There have been many days in which 7 out of 10 players on the server where from ntl. We help out everyone we see and we always think for the future of this game. We are the good guys!!When will you understand that?Moreover I heard rainbow dash calling NTL retarded and that I am the most annoying person in jk2. I have only tried to make this place better and try to bring a positive mentality in the minds of players. Where did I go wrong eh? I never lame, I never spam insults and I think I respect your rules pretty well.Why do I still have no respect and recognition? You talk to me like I am a rat. Where is the work in the forum? In the general talk place all the last posts in the topics are done by me? where is the fun and friendly atmosphere? somewhere forggoten in your past...soon to be in the lost and found section. You stare at those chatlogs all day but you don't understand anything...every statement is a reaction to something...it is inside a context...it's the basic rule of physics...every action creates an equal and opposite reaction...you only spend time on punishing the equal opposite reaction... I'm not going to take down anything...I am just going to support my friend Cuucka in a civilised way to proove again that I am not the black sheep, I am not the one that calls people (who care about this world) retarded. Cheers |
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Post by Dacul on Aug 15, 2012 19:37:35 GMT 1
Nevarin your metaphore is nice but wrong, Id compare the server to a pub, because its actually a public place.. You guys might not be so lucky like me and you might have not visited such a groovy place so many times like me. So Ill tell you how it works in a pub. When you do a mess or something they ll probably kick you out, if you come back they ll kick you again and again so you ll go home to get sober. If you come next day and get drunk and do the mess again, they ll probably kick you again.. But important thing is, that you wont be banned from that place.. Ofc there s this limit when they just tell you sorry dude you are not welcome here. But it can last just a week or so, then you are considered like a new guy again.. In case you wont come in through the front door but you will use the backdoor or a window so they couldnt see you they ll probably laugh their asses off when they find you there. Personally I dont know anyone who would get perm. banned from a fucking pub and its hard even to imagine the shit you would have to do so they would perm. ban you... Thats how it works in a groovy pub.. Btw: that is true story. You might have visited some shitty places if this metaphore sounds wrong to you. I agree with the last Daculs post.. It was indeed exaggerated .. Please dont stone me to death for saying that now, thats how I feel about this. ~Dio Words of wisdom right here |
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Post by Nevarin on Aug 15, 2012 19:57:25 GMT 1
ok fine. you can compair the server with a pub if you want. the only problem, my metaphore is still working because a pub isnt a public place. its owned by a private person and its still private. its just that the owner wants people to come in and have a drink, but its still private. the owner can throw anybody out. even without reason. no pub owner wants troublemakers in the pub. these are facts and these facts are supported by law. a pub is not a public place.
and you wont be banned from a pub if you come every weekend and do a mess?
no pub owner will let you in again if you do a mess every time you visit the pub. they arent going to ruin themself. no one is that stupid.
i know alot of people who are permanently banned from "a pub" for doing a mess multiple times and those people really deserved it.
i wont they it wasnt exaggerated, but thats not an excuse for continueing this behavior.
he could have shut up and take his first ban, w8 3 weeks and he would be considered "a new guy." instead of doing so he made his choice and i doubt anyone would say that this was a smart choice..
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Post by Dacul on Aug 15, 2012 20:16:49 GMT 1
right, this is turning into a "who makes the best post competition" and a "let me search for something that I can criticise in your post and make another post"
As I have heared from Eagle...there is a vote going down and there is a deadline for that vote...I await the results...until then no more useless posts.
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Post by Nevarin on Aug 15, 2012 20:28:28 GMT 1
true story. lets wait for the results of the vote.
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Post by dollar on Aug 15, 2012 20:28:48 GMT 1
Thank you for your reply Nevarin. Hallelujah Dacul. Waiting for results  ~Dio |
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Post by cuucka69 on Aug 15, 2012 21:23:19 GMT 1
LOl this is really good training to my english language . i really screwed up with eagle but i respect him as vampire castle payer and player, and all the other players. maybe i have a big mouth but i cant play this game without joking and doing all the stupid shit. Okay. And thanks for teh support all guys  AND BTW : dr heinz is banned too :dmaybe i can film hes reaction to utube lol ;D: nah he doesnt give a shits |
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Post by krema on Aug 16, 2012 0:27:21 GMT 1
still my english sux .. LOL
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Post by teddybear on Aug 16, 2012 9:05:08 GMT 1
Ok, he bypassed ban. But if he wouldn't rename to john cuucka, you would never know he even bypassed it <lol> And he was spectator whole time. He didn't do it with premeditation to fuck you, he was just groovy and didn't even think about being permbanned >3
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Post by snowman on Aug 16, 2012 9:20:54 GMT 1
Ok everything is said.
Everybody told his opinion.
We are going round in circles here.
Lets just wait for the vote.
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.. Please dont stone me to death for saying that now, thats how I feel about this. 
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